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Reply #1500 on Today at 11:19am

Base on the last several postings, it seems to me that Raj is being "deviated" from appearing on this forum.

Otherwise, how else could he been so "conveniently" absent for a couple of days with his unfinished business of giving us a full account or answer some of our questions pose to him?

This waiting could be excruciating to some...we are more inclined to resign to do nothing but...w...a...i...t!

Patiently yours,
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Reply #1501 on Today at 11:23am

The IP issue was dismissed quickly because it was partly based upon an error. The so-called 'matching' IP addresses were of the ... yahoo mail server. Both Chad and Raj had sent mail from their yahoo accounts.

Afterwards, the actual headers of the mails were analyzed and revealed a similarity but no match in the actual IP addresses that Chad and Raj used, for which there was a simple explanation: they have the same ISP.
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Reply #1502 on Today at 11:24am


Today at 11:02am, smokey wrote:

I'm still wondering what possible significance the Chad/Raj IP coincidence (unearthed earlier by Admin) may hold.


without knowing what those ip addresses are it's impossible to say what their significances are.

could be a mail server used by one or more regional isp's, could be simply raj and chad being in the same geographic location and using the same isp, could be an anon proxy that both used.

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Reply #1503 on Today at 11:25am

the chad pics that are with the tahoe mufon report were not there when they originally posted. the post even says 2 cell phone pics. mufon added the chad pics.

wow. talk about misleading people. the people giving disinfo in this saga of the strange craft is proof of purposely trying to confuse and make the water black. it's also enough proof for me to know this is real.

this is the only place where truth is going to shine, but as i see, there are people here who want to confuse everyone aswell. too bad.

admin, please help us out here. someone. mods, what do you have to say about this behavior of mufon, earthfiles, etc?

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Reply #1504 on Today at 11:25am


Today at 4:08am, admin wrote:
From our security logs today:

Today at 7:30am steve Deleted the account "steve" from the forum.

Why would Steve do that?
Maybe he had to commit to an immediate retreat from the public eye when questioning eyes started scrutinizing the evidence? (7 hours off is a big deal)

I can't imagine that Mufon took his actions lightly considering it is probably one of the more popular cases. One mistake on Steve part might reflect negatively on the whole of Mufon.

Especially if they were rash to reach conclusions. (debate-able)
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Reply #1505 on Today at 11:25am


Today at 4:08am, admin wrote:
From our security logs today:

Today at 7:30am steve Deleted the account "steve" from the forum.

Why would Steve do that?



Bye Steve. Better luck next time......


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Today at 11:23am, garuda wrote:
The IP issue was dismissed quickly because it was partly based upon an error. The so-called 'matching' IP addresses were of the ... yahoo mail server. Both Chad and Raj had sent mail from their yahoo accounts.

Afterwards, the actual headers of the mails were analyzed and revealed a similarity but no match in the actual IP addresses that Chad and Raj used, for which there was a simple explanation: they have the same ISP.


Though when I investigated a bit...Raj created his yahoo account on MAY 20, 2007. Maybe he is creating a buffer to his real identity from public scrutiny?

Could someone PM me the Yahoo account for "Chad"?

DO NOT PUT IT IN PUBLIC! << just a bold warning for those who might forget that we want to keep their privacy.
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Reply #1507 on Today at 11:31am

Hi folks,

Assuming that Chad and Raj share the same IP address, then it could be safe to say that whether they are the same and one person or trying to confuse serious investigators?

Could either one or both be compromised by either MUFON on Earthfile for their own ends?

Speculation after speculation but no clear cut answers as yet?

GW ;D
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Reply #1508 on Today at 11:35am

OK, let me repeat what I said before: THEY DO NOT HAVE THE SAME IP ADDRESS.

They are NOT the same person, unless that person would have two accounts on two different locations with the same ISP.

And I'm not speculating.
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Reply #1509 on Today at 11:36am

Mods Are you still in contact with Raj or is he MIA?
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Reply #1510 on Today at 11:37am


Today at 11:35am, garuda wrote:
OK, let me repeat what I said before: THEY DO NOT HAVE THE SAME IP ADDRESS.

They are NOT the same person, unless that person would have two accounts on two different locations with the same ISP.

And I'm not speculating.


Or unless that person posted from two different locations. Say one email from his house and another email from work or a friends house
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Reply #1511 on Today at 11:40am


Today at 11:18am, fore wrote:

Today at 7:12am, smokey wrote:


I have to agree with you. Astro. The problem seems to be a lack of critical thinking ability which leads to trite and superficial, faith-based and irrational analysis. In an open forum, however, mediocre minds have equal rights. Your point about Chad's reporting options is well taken and leads me, too, to question the veracity of his story- or at least his judgment. Don't stfu- we need your here.

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Since we are all of mediocre minds, according to you. Then step up to the plate and show us how it is done.

One line phrases and short outbursts' sure don't add very much on your side smokey.


certainly i never said 'we are all mediocre minds.' there are some truly fine thinkers here- and i referenced two of them in recent posts. my point was that regardless of the quality of a member's wit, he or she is still free to post- and to so drek-up the forum with pap and nonsense. c'est la vie on the peoples' internet. if you're truly interested in incisive, critical thinking then by all means read my posts; otherwise feel free to ignore me. but please try not to confuse brevity with insouciance. at heart i'm a poet and poets don't waste words.

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Reply #1512 on Today at 11:43am


Today at 5:10am, astrodicted wrote:
Humm sorry to say but this forum is starting to look probeliever
If this was a murderscenario..only thing u guys would do is look at the gun and hope that the owner sends a mail.
People who say hoax here need to stfu or dont get answered.Even worse,disinformants lol


Another thingy...If chad wanted to be anonymous.Why didnt he post at MUFON then?Its made very clear on their site that he could post anonymous without any further obligations.Im 500% sure that he visited that site if he was looking for info on the net.But no,Chad had to use weird phrases in the searchengine to end up with c2c.Rational?Logic?

Debunk me and ill stfu up


Hi A.,
Always nice to see new faces, and hear new opinions around here.

As long as you couch you statements as opinions, I have no problem listening to you. It's not about your opinions conflicting with mine. More about you NOT telling me my opinion is wrong and yours is right. If you tolerate me, I am happy to tolerate you.

Now, SPEAK tFu! ;D

As for Chads search engine results. What key words do you THINK (in your opinion) he used? What search engines did you try? There is more than one you know, and they frequently give different results, sometimes even the same one on different days!


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Reply #1513 on Today at 11:44am


Today at 11:35am, garuda wrote:
OK, let me repeat what I said before: THEY DO NOT HAVE THE SAME IP ADDRESS.

They are NOT the same person, unless that person would have two accounts on two different locations with the same ISP.

And I'm not speculating.


okkkk! don't yell at me for crissakes. i think it's sinking in! hahaha. thanks, g

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Reply #1514 on Today at 11:47am


Today at 11:35am, garuda wrote:
OK, let me repeat what I said before: THEY DO NOT HAVE THE SAME IP ADDRESS.

They are NOT the same person, unless that person would have two accounts on two different locations with the same ISP.

And I'm not speculating.


quoted so it burns and sticks into my mind...

so what about the tahoe sightings? who has the ip address info on that?
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