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Today at 1:56pm, endzone wrote:
The way this will be solved is with and by OPEN MINDs, which in it's pure definition means to enter into any situation with no bias towards the possibilities of something being real or not. We are all speculating on something which if is a real set of physical objects, will change the world we live in no matter what. Then there is the possibility of a cgi hoax which would only lend to the people who trivialize our community. This is a distinct possibility as we all know disinformation is the status quo in many governments of the world. But being open minded I also cannot deny the possibility also that this is a profound experience that has been thrust upon us. This has drawn together some of the brightest minds in our community, and also attracted a new wave of investigators and interested people. I do know that this scares the crap out of the disinformation machine. But could this be the sign we've been waiting for? Funny thing is if you go to the fringe of the ufo movement in your investigations you come upon information not on the craft perse, but yet they are all abuzz about this supposed "Galactic Federation" that is part of this first contact event they are all speaking of. They say that these "federation" folks are showing themselves more and more and will be showing themselves in dramatic fashion in the coming months.Could they be right?
Then we go back to the opposite of this and this could all be a "powerline drone fleet" being operated by a private company breaking FAA low level flight rules and testing these new age drones over populated areas without notifying local, state, or federal authorities so that they can notify the population. That they might actually be brazen enough to fly these craft over homes and people without prior notice is abhorrent to say the least.
But this is all gonna come down to what i said earlier, intelligent open minded discussion and investigation. Noone should jump on anyone else for their views on this as it only shows your mind is one of those not open to discussion.


that was very well put :)
and yes, if its ET, i think its safe to say its definately part of first contact and disclosure.
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Today at 1:54pm, colorsymphony wrote:

but say what you want, because for some reason no one is trying to stop you.

That's because he has not said anything that would give us cause to stop him. Shads is a good man, very skeptical about things, and isn't afraid to state his opinion. I'm cool with it.
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« Reply #1562 on Today at 2:07pm »

[quote author=colorsymphony board=ufosandextraterrestrial thread=1178524844 post=1180807446]unnecessary insult
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Today at 2:03pm, fore wrote:

P.S. They are all joking about him being a disinfo agent.


thanks and i understand that. i have no problem with him. in a really weird dark corner inside of me i can see where he's coming from.
but serisouly, lets try to save the jokes for later (if needed). this is already too messy of a situation to mock the fact that disinfo is real and happening right in front of us. smoke is smoke no matter how you blow it.
sorry shadow, no hard feelings<3
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Today at 2:10pm, colorsymphony wrote:
sorry shadow, no hard feelings<3


Actually i have sort of become endeared to your use of the term for me! so no hard feelings at all. LOL
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Today at 2:07pm, smokey wrote:
lots of electrons expended here, but- sorry, i don't ever read your posts. hopefully, you don't read mine either.

I would hope that both of you read each other's posts as that is a way to further broaden and expand your base of knowledge. If all you do is read your own or similar thoughts and statements then you are locking yourself in to a stuck-in-place non-evolving personal belief system and philosophy. That, my friend, leads to stagnation, even from a cartoon character.
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Today at 2:00pm, ivo5000 wrote:
The lack of cooperation is very perplexing. I'm not sure what to make of it. But one thing I have been told by at least three different Deep Insiders (and is something I have always done anyway) is to look at the activities of people surrounding a situation to learn more about it, especially when you are faced with a dearth of facts.

When I look at the activity I see ATS, ufocasebook and MUFON dismiss this as a hoax without publishing or sharing any of the reasons why. Most peculiar is the activities of Steve from MUFON, who posted info, deleted the posts, shared some info privately, invited Raj to a face-to-face interview and then deleted his account in the middle of the night. MUFON has also stated that they have four different experts who all agree that this is a hoax...but all four have different reasons as to why and none of that research can be made public. Sound strange to you?

Something fishy is going on here...


Do the Mufon folk typically post the details of how their investigation went? If so, then yes that does sound mighty strange.

LMH, I haven't any good idea as to what she might be up to. Has RaJ had any contact with her?

Could there be some hidden play behind the scenes that we are not at all aware of? Maybe a little jockeying to be in first place in the breaking of a story? [wild speculation]

I wonder if someone is trying to convince Raj that one place is better than another, on some false premise. Food for thought.
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Today at 2:01pm, regence wrote:

Today at 1:56pm, Guest wrote:


Yes completely. Confirmed by hundreds. The identity and credentials of "RP" are fully established.




Awesome. Can you point me to the thread where that happened?

There are no people questioning this, that I know of. It's a given. Consequently there are no specific threads confirming this. The confirmation is interwoven in the thread including emails from RP himself.

The beginning 6 or so pages of that thread provide information of all the code names of insiders discussing these things. That could help you.

We also have two recorded interviews at the top of our opening page (click the cd player) discussing RP (also code named CoK25) and another Aviary insider (retired CIA), while providing further information of insider coordinations, currently taking place.

If you still are having some doubts, I would suggest that if you know any note worthy Ufologer, simply email them and ask them. They should be able to confirm for you.


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I think a better explanation may be that MUFON posted their verdict of hoax prematurely (although understandably so with the evidence available at the time) and then word of Raj's appearance made them stop in their tracks and now they have to back track a bit until it is established weather or not Raj is actually credible.
As far as LMH goes...well i won't say because it would get me banned for sure LOL
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Today at 2:00pm, ivo5000 wrote:
The lack of cooperation is very perplexing. I'm not sure what to make of it. But one thing I have been told by at least three different Deep Insiders (and is something I have always done anyway) is to look at the activities of people surrounding a situation to learn more about it, especially when you are faced with a dearth of facts.

When I look at the activity I see ATS, ufocasebook and MUFON dismiss this as a hoax without publishing or sharing any of the reasons why. Most peculiar is the activities of Steve from MUFON, who posted info, deleted the posts, shared some info privately, invited Raj to a face-to-face interview and then deleted his account in the middle of the night. MUFON has also stated that they have four different experts who all agree that this is a hoax...but all four have different reasons as to why and none of that research can be made public. Sound strange to you?

Something fishy is going on here...


Ivo, you've stated, yourself, that certain information 'known to the Mods here' is 'kept from the public.' Why that is we may never know. My own feeling is always- spill the beans. I hate secrets. Unfortunately for Steve- he also felt that way. He spilled the beans as he knew it and has taken a rasher of crap for it.

I don't blame him for beating a straight path outa here.

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Today at 2:22pm, smokey wrote:
Ivo, you've stated, yourself, that certain information 'known to the Mods here' is 'kept from the public.' Why that is we may never know. My own feeling is always- spill the beans. I hate secrets.


I too dont see the need for secrecy. If we are all to investigate we should all have access to all info available, otherwise we are left with inadequit resources which leads to inadequit results!
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Today at 1:54pm, TheShadow wrote:

Today at 1:52pm, ivo5000 wrote:

Nothing from Raj in the last two days and no, we don't have the hi-res pics yet. According to Raj those needed to be obtained from his future father-in-law who lives about an hour and a half away. Hopefully those will be obtained by Raj here over the weekend.


How much y'all want to bet his father in law (who never empties his memeory card) deleted those pics from the memory card!!


ok 20 bucks

edit to add: unless you want more then that.
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Today at 2:25pm, ipfreely wrote:
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Your on!!
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« Reply #1573 on Today at 2:27pm »

A third party compared both IP addresses, the one Chad had used, and the one Raj had used.

It's no secret, as it has been said in this thread on several occasions, that there was a partial match, in that the first 3 out of 4 octets matched.

With the information I had on Raj's IP address, that was enough to find out it was a rotating IP address, dynamically assigned by an ISP. That ISP owns the whole IP range for the last octet, and one quarter of the IP addresses of the third octet as well, meaning they have 16.348 IP addresses to play around with.

That's all I the information I can and will give.

If that's not enough for you, tough. Feel free to go and investigate it further, and waste many more minutes of your precious time... Don't waste mine.
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Today at 2:21pm, TheShadow wrote:
I think a better explanation may be that MUFON posted their verdict of hoax prematurely (although understandably so with the evidence available at the time) and then word of Raj's appearance made them stop in their tracks and now they have to back track a bit until it is established weather or not Raj is actually credible.
As far as LMH goes...well i won't say because it would get me banned for sure LOL


wow, shads-
that's way to sensible to fly on here.

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