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Re: UFO -'best yet'? up close and
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Today at 7:50pm »
Admin and
Ivo, MY OPINION is that if this thing were in fact
flying around California we would have at least one
credible witness. Do we? Numbers and colorsymph post
in here that they are sure it is real (and extra
terstrial) ...why is my theory of hoax less tolerated
than their hypothosis that it is real?
Without
proof or credible witness there IMO is no choice but to
file it under hoax. I will admit when Raj first came on
the scene i had hope, but his two posts have been less
than informative (other than simple explanations of
movement and sound). Did you ever receive the original
pics? Have you been in further contact with
Raj?
My theory is based on two things Logic and
Common Sense. Yes it is true your typical UFO sighting
may go unreported to anyone but family and friends, but
let's face it, this would hardly qualify as a typical
UFO sighting.
Re: UFO -'best yet'? up close and
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Today at 8:07pm »
How about a
new rule in regards to posting:
All members may
say anything they wish; based on facts, claims,
statements and opinions. Facts and claims do not need
proof Statements and opinions are excluded from needing
anything. Per usual, name calling and adult language are
prohibited at all times.
All members may
say anything they wish; based on fact or
opinion. Facts do not need proof and opinions
are excluded from needing anything. Per usual,
name calling and adult language are prohibited
at all times.
Not
to working. My support of that Shadow guy not published.
Just like in Russia. All views not popular with
government are eliminated by guys in charge. And all
said was that agreeing with his opinion! That was enough
to kill my posts!! Bad things await this democracy!
Re: UFO -'best yet'? up close and
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Today at 8:26pm »
There is an
obvious "cool" crowd in this forum. If you don't have
any outrageous, VERY intelligent or mind blowing
insights to post, don't expect to be part of the
conversation. Personally, I try to stick with questions
and even those are bashed for being covered in a
previous post 60 pages back.
Joined: Jun 2007 Gender:
Male Posts: 22 Location: Minsk
Re: UFO -'best yet'? up close and
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Today at 8:29pm »
There is
only one fair administrator here. It is the man Ivo.
Please Mr. Ivo start own forum and leave this to the
censor guys! The stuff that here we have known needs to
have place to publish without censors. Please do this.
You do not fit here or does Shadow man! Ibrahim Ivanoff,
Bobroysk, Minsk.
Joined: May 2007 Gender: Male
Posts: 22 Location: OKC, USA
Re: UFO -'best yet'? up close and
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Today at 8:30pm »
I realize
that in the modern realm of the influence of the
internet we are prone to "instant gratification" for
knowledge. However to put this matter (the sightings in
question) into perspective it has not yet been a
month since the first Chad photos surfaced on C2C.
It is still WAY early in the game yet. It's been almost
sixty years since Roswell and the circumstances
surrounding that landmark event are yet to be proven as
absolute.
I believe patience will be a virtue in
this matter. I understand the desire of many to "strike
while the iron is hot" -- and information/evidence
could be lost if neglected - i.e. digital photo
memory cards - however if everyone concerned with a lack
of witnesses, further photos, media coverage etc. could
take a breather and realize that more information.
witnesses and photos could possibly be
forthcoming in due time -- it could perhaps
benefit the investigation overall.
I realize that in
the modern realm of the influence of the
internet we are prone to "instant gratification"
for knowledge. However to put this matter (the
sightings in question) into perspective it
has not yet been a month since the first
Chad photos surfaced on C2C. It is still WAY
early in the game yet. It's been almost sixty
years since Roswell and the circumstances
surrounding that landmark event are yet to be
proven as absolute.
I believe patience
will be a virtue in this matter. I understand
the desire of many to "strike while the iron is
hot" -- and information/evidence could be
lost if neglected - i.e. digital photo memory
cards - however if everyone concerned with a
lack of witnesses, further photos, media
coverage etc. could take a breather and realize
that more information. witnesses and photos
could possibly be forthcoming in due time
-- it could perhaps benefit the
investigation
overall.
So
we wait another 60 years?? I have not such patience.
Read this man, Shadow, for truth of this.
Ibrahim - if you
don't like it here..... why don't you go
elsewhere
Do you think you'd be missed?
I hear Alpine, California is
quite nice this time of year. Warmer than Minsk
eh?
Brrrr!!!
So!
Did you kill post? California would be great place.
Minsk is also good this time. It is warm and full of
flowers. Won't you come? If I would be missed is not a
proper question. Would you be missed??? I do not think
so. Are you the censor? Stalin would love you! And Lenin
too. They killed all disent just like you do. Are you
proud of yourself, Mr. British??
(edit by Admin: Lenin? Nah!
Trotsky, maybe..
- whilst you're thinking about that, Comrad ( ) how about we put up your IP here so folks
can work out for themselves how honest you are?
hmmm?.... Minsk, you say? .... well
now...)
Re: UFO -'best yet'? up close and
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Today at 8:52pm »
~Patience~
First of all, I
can understand why some have become so passionate with
regards to this mystery -- the implications of outcome
of this mystery are very big.
I would like to
say it is my opinion that mysteries require patience,
caution, and commitment to unwrap. I ask that we sit
back, slow down, and let go the need to have instant
gratification with regards to the answer of this UFO
photo conundrum. This particular phenomenon is only a
few weeks old. While true we should act fast to preserve
information, that does not mean we can or should act
fast to a conclusion.
To declare hoax, aliens,
secret military object, etc, I think is far too
premature. This focus here should be the collection of
evidence. Speculation may be fun, but without evidence
it is ultimately meaningless. In addition, even though
if at first it may be difficult or there may be a delay
to the acquisition of certain pieces of evidence, it is
not reason to become upset, to make premature
conclusions, or become antagonistic to perceived
barriers to that information. Those reactions are
counter-productive.
In addition, when dealing
with witnesses, even in the cyber medium, we must be
patient and willing to build a positive relationship
with him, her or them. Not only does the witness deserve
respect (even when anonymous), but also it is the best
way of accumulating more information. Remember, the
witness does not have to tell you anything -- it is her
or his choice to do so.
These are my opinions and
they are based on my own experiences as a witness who
has worked with a researcher, and also based on my
observations as a student, of science as practiced by
scientists. Answers are not always immediately
available, and it sometimes takes a lot of time and
patience for answers to emerge in any kind of
semi-complete form.
All members may
say anything they wish; based on facts, claims,
statements and opinions. Facts and claims do not
need proof Statements and opinions are excluded
from needing anything. Per usual, name calling
and adult language are prohibited at all
times.
Hi
Mario,
Each section already includes a
thread called:
Announcements: "Rules Regarding
Posting".
If you have a suggestion/addition about
the exisiting rules, IMO, your best bet would be to send
a Private Message (PM) to one of the admins requesting
the change.
Just to stay on topic, didn't someone
say Raj had to drive 1-1/2hrs to pickup the hi-res
photos off the memory card? Might explain why it is
taking him awhile to deliver. 3 hr round trip is
a chunk of time (and gas!) for any working
guy.
All members may
say anything they wish; based on facts, claims,
statements and opinions. Facts and claims do not
need proof Statements and opinions are excluded
from needing anything. Per usual, name calling
and adult language are prohibited at all
times.
Hi
Mario,
Each section already
includes a thread called:
Announcements:
"Rules Regarding Posting".
If you have a
suggestion/addition about the exisiting rules,
IMO, your best bet would be to send a Private
Message (PM) to one of the admins requesting the
change.
Thanks, CaliKid
It
was more of a sarcastic comment in response to the
bickering.
Re: UFO -'best yet'? up close and
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Today at 9:23pm »
Here's a
stupid question. Has anyone contacted the Capitola, CA
police department to inquire whether the Raj object was
reported to them around 5/16/07? We don't have Chad's
whereabouts, but I wonder if there is any independent
confirmation available out there? Forgive me if this has
already been addressed.