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Reply #2265 on Yesterday at 6:10pm

Questions.
Have you heard back from the Capitola PD? If not can we assume no one saw this thing anywhere in Capitola besides Raj and family?
Have you heard back from Raj?
The mods have said they are in contact with Jenna and Steve (BigBasin witnesses) and Ivo posted an email from Jenna......have you heard from the actual photographer?
Any word from the local papers in and around Capitola as to if they received the pics in question?

Peter Davenport of nuforc.org never did respond to my email inquiring about sightings in the area, does that mean he isnt taking any of this seriously?

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Yesterday at 6:10pm, TheShadow wrote:
Questions.
Have you heard back from the Capitola PD? If not can we assume no one saw this thing anywhere in Capitola besides Raj and family?


Absolutely NOT
You might be able to assume that nobody reported a sighting to the police. But I'm sure you know what happens when you ass-u-me. ;D
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Reply #2267 on Yesterday at 7:03pm

Doesnt answer my question though does it?

The questions posted above, in my opinion (necessary disclaimer), need answers so we can move past ridiculous speculation (again my opinion) and get to the bottom of this! If we are seeking the truth we need to be seeking answers not posting a bunch of what ifs. As fun as that may be it does nothing to answer the important questions and resolve this once and for all.
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Reply #2268 on Yesterday at 7:17pm


Yesterday at 6:10pm, TheShadow wrote:
Questions.
Have you heard back from the Capitola PD? If not can we assume no one saw this thing anywhere in Capitola besides Raj and family?
Have you heard back from Raj?
The mods have said they are in contact with Jenna and Steve (BigBasin witnesses) and Ivo posted an email from Jenna......have you heard from the actual photographer?
Any word from the local papers in and around Capitola as to if they received the pics in question?



Hi Shads! ( you may not believe it if you're new here - but I love this guy ! ;) )

i'll do my best - !

Nothing back from detective Gonzales - I am assuming this is not high on his priorities - let's give him a week.

Nothing back from Raj. I'm still giving him the benefit of the doubt - but unsure what may be going on with respect to your first question.

We have contacted Stephen too - Ivo is dealing with that.
No papers written back to me - I contacted a couple - the main one's I think, but can't remember their names without looking them up again!

What does any of that mean? I dare say there will be different interpretations. ;) 8-)
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Reply #2269 on Yesterday at 7:19pm

Hey Admin,
So we have many questions and very few (if any) answers. At least the right questions are being asked of the right people.....hopefully eventually we get some answers.
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Shads
P.S. I emailed Mr Davenport of http://www.nuforc.org/ again...maybe ill get an answer this time!

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Reply #2270 on Yesterday at 8:21pm

I am not sure if this is just an optical illusion but there seems to be quite a difference in the distance between these two points?

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Its the same on the Chad image from underneath!
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Reply #2271 on Yesterday at 9:00pm

I feel like Remi :(

Who benefits from this is most ignored question imo.If there's a prob,go look where the money is...Thats maybe the nr1 rule used by police investigators
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Yesterday at 8:21pm, agentmulder wrote:
I am not sure if this is just an optical illusion but there seems to be quite a difference in the distance between these two points?

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Its the same on the Chad image from underneath!


It looks okay to me. I think the upper part is partly in shadow, and also there is probably a slight bit of tilt, so the bottom is slightly closer.

As far as who stands to gain, I guess the most flippant answer would be to say that the commercial websites who have posted the photos and stories have stood to gain the most. I don't know that much about these sites, but it appears that there is not a lot of investigation going on--they seem to post stuff at face value and then move right on to the next thing.

I don't know that it's a lot different than the tabloids chasing celebrity gossip.
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Reply #2273 on Yesterday at 9:42pm


Yesterday at 8:21pm, agentmulder wrote:
I am not sure if this is just an optical illusion but there seems to be quite a difference in the distance between these two points?
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Its the same on the Chad image from underneath!

If you look closely you'll see that the inner ring you measured is actually slanted inwards. A normal perspective would be larger when closer as seen in the left side of my diagrams. The object perspective is shown on the right. I have emphasized the slant to make the point:

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Reply #2274 on Yesterday at 10:05pm

Ok onthefence I see it now thanks :)
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Reply #2275 on Yesterday at 10:09pm

Here's a potential witness (without photos, but much easier to track down IRL than 'chad'):

From: http://www.fazed.net/view/?id=13778&p=6
 
May 25th, 2007 (12:24 PM)
wtf guys this is totally real, like completely. I saw one of these in the evening a week or two ago (based in Chico, CA) I climbed a tree with my camera phone to try to get some footage of it, but it disappeared right in front of me. [snip] 

The user profile points to: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/39105910/
An email address is also given, which discloses this profile: http://www.fortunecity.com/rivendell/lucky/356/

Could be BS of course, but it would be useful at this point for investigators to be tracking down witnesses to try and ground the story.
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Reply #2276 on Yesterday at 10:18pm

Well at least we know he is a ranma fan :D.
LMAO!

Hey at least his photoshop skills are down in the gutter. I'd like to see him present pictures of his sightings...this should be interesting.
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Reply #2277 on Yesterday at 11:12pm


Yesterday at 10:09pm, suspicioso wrote:
The user profile points to: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/39105910/

After looking at that image (time lapse) where he stands still and everyone around is a blur, it reminded me of my favorite Star Trek episode "Wink of an Eye, Ep. 68" where the beings operate at a very high speed and cannot be seen by the crew.

It's been said a few times these objects have a jerky motion then disappear. Could it be that these things are always there but move way too fast for us to normally see. It's only when they stay still for a long time that we see them. The jerky motion may be that they are moving at their normal speed until they stop for a while again.

Our eyes have a response time in the millisecond range, if these objects move around in microseconds then we certainly would not seen them. However, it might be possible to see them with a very fast camera.

I've read a bit about the "rods" phenomenon, which is most likely just insects, but that same technique for filming may turn up something here. Set you camera at a very fast shutter speed and take snapshots over the forests of California, something might turn up that our slow reacting eyes could never see.
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Reply #2278 on Yesterday at 11:27pm

onthefence: The VeraTech Phantom UAV operates on a similar principle (see http://veratech.aero/phantom.html). I think the principle as described in their patent may apply here (assuming this is something real), but not the implementation; VeraTech use conventional rotors and lift surfaces for their 'invisible' UAVs.

Note however its the only thing I've seen around with the kind of asymmetric configuration seen in the 'drones' - its an inherent part of the persistence of vision effect exploited by VeraTech to make their UAV harder to see.

Patent: http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G &l=50&s1=%2220060214051%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20060214051&RS=DN/20060214051

Principle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_of_vision
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Reply #2279 on Yesterday at 11:40pm

well, i don't know what to believe, still! its starting to annoy me how much i've been "distracted" by this. either way, i've asked a few people who seem to know what's going on. i emailed patrick bellringer at http://www.fourwinds10.com/ multiple times in regards to these sightings. his responses were always the same after each new set of photos. no matter how ET this big basin craft seems (with it disappearing and being able to fly with all that weight) he still thinks otherwise.

i asked him simple questions relating to the chad photos (which he posted shortly after it was reported on coasttocoast) in a calm manner and he replied with:  

"These UFO photos are of the U.S. Government drones used for such, as
mind-control and surveillance.  It makes for great gossip.  Other countries
have similar technology.

                           In Love and Light,
                           Patrick H. Bellringer"



i got frustrated with his lack of reasons or proof as to why he said it was government and sent a rude email asking many more questions. he didn't reply. i then apologized for my rude comments and explained why i was so frustrated. his reply was:

"No problem!  I hadn't gotten to your e-mail to respond.  My intuition
tells me the UFO's are 3D-government technology for surveillance and mind
control.  o.k.?  We all have those daze! :)

                           In Love and Light,
                           Patrick H. Bellringer"


after yesterday, with the bigbasin photos i emailed him again, asking more questions and informing him on what has happened with raj here at OM and what happened to his flikr account.. i asked him, "do our governments really have this technology patrick? why are they making it so obvious its ET technology? if this is government this is freaking scary man! look at the "zapper" on the bottom of that thing! *this* is for surveilence?!" his reply was:

"These pictures are of a U.S. Government surveillance/mind-control drone
that is being used to control the public.  You can have protection against
such technology by using the Lighted Realms for such.  Do not be fearful of
such technology, for there is nothing to fear when your frequencies are
high.

                           In Love and Light,
                           Patrick H. Bellringer"



i asked him if i could quote him and he said, "O.K., no problem!"
i dont know if anyone here is familiar with fourwinds10.com or the pheonix journals, but i thought i'd share these responses with everyone from someone who works in this ballpark. i feel what he's saying and i trust him and i have for a long time, but something isn't clicking. maybe its just because i dont want it to be government. ugh. ???
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