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« Reply #1320 on Today at 7:53am »

Thx for replying and kinda helping me out ;)

""I see what you are getting at here. If Chad is not familiar with C2C why choose to post there?""
Chad or raj im confusing the names sorry for that.....but EXACTLY,i find the link to c2c very odd.

Saladfinger(many thx for that) tried to find c2c using "ufo" related stuff and he did find m using the phrase "ufo image help"..BUT,funny thing is that u get a link then to the RECENT ufo,the 1 u guys are trying to debunk.With other words=that link dindt excist when chad was looking.With other words=C2c wasnt even mentioned by the searchengine!!!


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« Reply #1321 on Today at 8:00am »

MidusTouch,

Do you know Chinese? Mandarin or Cantonese? I see that you are in Macau.

You stated that the symbols are a mixture of Japanese, Arabic, Chinese and Korean.

Where did you get this information? Is this your own assessment, or based on other people's? The reason I ask is because I have studied some Arabic and I don't recall seeing any similarities to Arabic characters.

As for Klingon, I don't know what you mean by Klingon not being a proper language. It is still a language even though artificial, and people *do* speak it.

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Today at 7:01am, MidusTouch wrote:

Both Chad's and Raj's drones have different writings (or symbols) all over the long and shorter arms.
The writings have a mixture of Japanese, Arabic, Chinese and even Korean


So the aliens are Asian and Middle Eastern polyglots?


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(forget Klingon it isn't a proper language).


Why forget Klingon? It's more likely that the creator of this craft knows Klingon than Japanese, Arabic, Chinese and Korean.


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We'll never know the meaning of these writings but one thing for sure, they tell us that each arm has its function different to the others. The amount of writings (instructions) in each arm means that the configurations is endless.


You seem pretty sure on the 'meaning' of the writing for someone who thinks we can never know the meaning!
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« Reply #1323 on Today at 8:17am »

Hi guys,

I speak/read Chinese and japanese (i'm a chinese from singapore) and do come in contact with some occasional korean.
From the idealized model of the text figure on the craft provided by organelle.
The only character that come close to represent any chinese character is the "+" which means "ten/10"(same meaning when it's as a Kanji in japanese). The katakana "fu"("hu") appear to look like フ (unicode U+30D5). Nope... non of them look anything like korean.

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« Reply #1324 on Today at 8:39am »


Today at 8:00am, kana wrote:
MidusTouch,

Do you know Chinese? Mandarin or Cantonese? I see that you are in Macau.

You stated that the symbols are a mixture of Japanese, Arabic, Chinese and Korean.

Where did you get this information? Is this your own assessment, or based on other people's? The reason I ask is because I have studied some Arabic and I don't recall seeing any similarities to Arabic characters.

As for Klingon, I don't know what you mean by Klingon not being a proper language. It is still a language even though artificial, and people *do* speak it.

--Kana


Sorry! I take back what I said about Klingon isn't a proper language. :-X
Of course I read and speak Chinese and can read quite a lot of Japanese.
The Arabic number writing is very similar to some of the characters shown on the arm.
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Today at 8:05am, regence wrote:

Today at 7:01am, MidusTouch wrote:

Both Chad's and Raj's drones have different writings (or symbols) all over the long and shorter arms.
The writings have a mixture of Japanese, Arabic, Chinese and even Korean


So the aliens are Asian and Middle Eastern polyglots?



Why forget Klingon? It's more likely that the creator of this craft knows Klingon than Japanese, Arabic, Chinese and Korean.


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We'll never know the meaning of these writings but one thing for sure, they tell us that each arm has its function different to the others. The amount of writings (instructions) in each arm means that the configurations is endless.


You seem pretty sure on the 'meaning' of the writing for someone who thinks we can never know the meaning!


Every language in our world took hundreds if not thousands of years to evolve.
Languages from other galaxies and planets are just the same, we need to understand their history (lifestyles) to understand the essence of their writings.
For example, if we had 2 suns, Chinese would used 2 circles (OO) to represent the suns & daylight thousand years ago but not tits thou. ;D
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« Reply #1326 on Today at 10:07am »

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Is my avatar affecting your thinking? ;D

By the way it is waving hi to all the new folk joining the forum. It is also doing a small jig in celebration of witnesses to an event coming forward. My jugs jig is much more fascinating than Shads Snoopy! ;D

Try not to wear it out with your eyes ;) . :)
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« Reply #1327 on Today at 11:17am »

I dont know if anyone is compiling a list of questions to ask Raj about this sighting, if so I would like to know what time of day aprox the sighting was made?

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Today at 10:07am, fore wrote:
MidusTouch

Is my avatar affecting your thinking? ;D

By the way it is waving hi to all the new folk joining the forum. It is also doing a small jig in celebration of witnesses to an event coming forward. My jugs jig is much more fascinatino than Shads Snoopy! ;D

Try not to wear it out with your eyes ;) . :)


your 'jugs jig' avatar is an insult to women- and to men.
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« Reply #1329 on Today at 12:37pm »

A few more things of note comparisons.
Both Chad and Raj images show that the object has 12 spikes spaced at 30 degrees apart:
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The spikes/fin moves with respect to each other. as you can see by the different angles between the spikes and long fin. I used a projected center point and projected the spike wires to where I though they would meet a plane on the long line:
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This should indicate that the Chad and Raj images are not simple CG copies of each other by simply adding some extra components. It also seems to indicate that the hub and other parts are not fixed together.
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« Reply #1330 on Today at 12:48pm »

It looks like a cross between a bed warmer and an oil-lantern---minus the glasswork.

Despite the great detail of the pic, this object just doesn't make any sense.

Let's be realistic. IF I'm an alien from another galaxy, space travel would have to be hingent on an extremely advanced form of travel...one that would have to depend on the bending of space. We are all intelligent enough on this subject.

Why would you let yourself be seen, if you could do that? Forget all the USG cover-up conspiracies.

And where are all the other people that SHOULD have seen this? Just plain old testimonials would suffice my curiosity.

So I search for any evidence today...and guess what? The Loch Ness monster is back. Not one mention of these pics.

Until more than two witnesses, who wish to remain anonymous, come forward, I think this falls into the greyer areas. Watching these forums for 'biscuits' of info is useless. Not a single believer here doesn't think the USG has had a hand in this in the past. If this IS the case, and this WAS an alien aircraft, they couldn't supress the eyewitnesses. But there are only...two???

Broad daylight, AND, our witness states, besides him, 4 or 5 others, see this, and NO ONE else is coming forward.

Ask Raj why thats the case.

Life does exist out there, somewhere, but so do a lot of fakes.

Sorry if I offend....I'm sure I just did. I actually hope I'm wrong.

Peace, out.
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« Reply #1331 on Today at 12:48pm »


Today at 7:45am, kana wrote:
Hey guys,

I'll be away from the forum for the next couple of days. Organelle, good job on the characters. When I come back, and if someone else has not already done so, I'll show some comparisons with Japanese Katakana. Someone asked how reliable my knowledge is -- I studied Japanese for about a year and a half on the college level. I can read things like children's books, but would not be able to read for example, a typical Japanese Newspaper. My knowledge of Kanji characters is dearth. If you don't trust my knowledge I can show the characters to a native Japanese speaker friend of mine. I would make sure to only show her the characters and not the craft.

Also, since I live in Santa Cruz, I am going to make an effort to talk to the Santa Cruz Sentinel.

Everyone else is also welcome to give them an email. Maybe if they got enough people bugging them they will give an answer.

--Kana
Kana,

That would be just fantastic if you could stop by the Sentinel's offices. Take along some copies of the photos if you are able to print them out.
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Today at 12:37pm, onthefence wrote:
A few more things of note comparisons.
Both Chad and Raj images show that the object has 12 spikes spaced at 30 degrees apart:
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The spikes/fin moves with respect to each other. as you can see by the different angles between the spikes and long fin. I used a projected center point and projected the spike wires to where I though they would meet a plane on the long line:
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This should indicate that the Chad and Raj images are not simple CG copies of each other by simply adding some extra components. It also seems to indicate that the hub and other parts are not fixed together.
1) Does this mean that the object spins?

2) Is there a way to figure out if it is horizontal at all, relative to the ground?

3) By the way, in one of the photo's where you bring out the background. Is the bottom and inner ring covered in some kind of symbols?
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« Reply #1333 on Today at 12:59pm »

Hey fence, spf33 and any other analytical minds out there,

Can you apply some of the same techniques to stills taken from saladfinger's cgi demo video? My thought is that doing so would help to prove that there is a substantial difference between the object(s) in the photos and a known cg object. Especially given the apparent motion you are seeing in the analysis of the photos.

Salad - is motion of the various parts something you can create in cg?
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« Reply #1334 on Today at 1:02pm »

My thoughts on how a water bug moves (after watching that waterbug video posted earlier):

I think it breaks the coefficient of friction and slides over the water in quick jerky movements. There may be some bounce back from retracting the legs. Here's my graph of movement over time.
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You can try this experiment yourself on a chair with wheels (not on a rug) or any chair that easily moves on the floor while you sit on it. While sitting, jerk your body forward and the chair will move in one direction, if you slowly move your body back -- the chair will not move backwards. You can move right across the room without ever touching the ground with your feet.

I've always imagined that an aircraft of some sort could be built to harness this jerking motion to get off the ground. Since air has friction -- a movement similar and fast enough might overcome the air friction periodically to cause a movement in one direction.

The water bug utilizes surface tension to keep afloat, see diagram and explanation here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_tension

Is this object floating on something that we cannot see which keeps it afloat?
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